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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.07 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/05/2007 00:36:31 How is Eefrit a cheat?
You are the one who did not disclose the default to shareholders.
In fact, you outright LIED about your net worth:
Originally by: Firid Soulbane
Quote: Total BMBE capital now : 102.788B ISK
Taken from BMBE report #6
How can you report that the total capital is 102.788b isk when its not?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2007.05.07 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lemonx
Originally by: Heikki For my impression of characteristics of the main players
My impression is that Eefrit will do what is in his shareholders best interest, while TS does whats in his and BIGs best interest.
I'd say that Eefrit is doing mostly what is in his best interest, but fortunately for us that also overlaps with the shareholders' best interest.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2007.05.07 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/05/2007 22:38:28
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Balogh If you consider revealing inconsistencies to be dirty tricks, then yes, I would like Eefrit (or anyone else) to perform said tricks again, if needed.
It's the way its done. The means used. Or do you belive the goal justifies the means?
And let me itereate once more : Eefrit didnt give a toss if this was "revealed" or not.
Eefrit did not care.
Eefrit was prepared to sit on that info - and *not* "reveal" it.
Eefrit is/was not a "fighter for truths" as you would like to portray him.
Eefrit didnt give a damn about "The Truth".
Eefrit would just as gladly have kept his mouth shut.
Which he coincidently did for 4-5 months - Until ofc he saw a way that he could use the info for his own means.
If he hadnt - You wouldnt have heard a peep from Eefrit about this - Same as you didnt for those 4-5 months.
Eefrit's actions do not change the fact that you have lied to your shareholders.
Stop trying to derail this with ad hominem attacks. Don't attack the messenger, confront the message. I don't care about Eefrit. I don't care if he eats babies, kills puppies, and clubs baby seals. He doesn't matter. What matters is what you did, and the fact that you haven't apologized or explained it.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2007.05.07 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/05/2007 23:04:48
Originally by: TornSoul Derailing???
*YOU* are the one derailing - This thread is about Eefrit - Not me.
Theres other threads where you can bash me in if you wish, and I'll answer - But not here.
This entire thread exists because you are attempting to derail discussion from you back to Eefrit.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2007.05.08 01:50:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/05/2007 01:48:29
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: TornSoul Derailing??? *YOU* are the one derailing - This thread is about Eefrit - Not me.
Theres other threads where you can bash me in if you wish, and I'll answer - But not here.
This entire thread exists because you are attempting to derail discussion from you back to Eefrit.
Would dearly love to see you post the excact same thing, with names exchanged, in the new thread Eefrit opened up.
But nooooo
At least you are admitting you where off-topic. Thanks.
No, I'm not "off topic".
The subject of Eefrit's supposed "lying" is directly related to your actual "lying."
Stop avoiding the issues. YOU LIED TO SHAREHOLDERS ABOUT BMBE'S NET WORTH. You have not explained why, or apologized. Instead, you accuse Eefrit of lying to try to cover up your own dishonesty.
Why not just let it out, apologize, and let that be it? If you actually cared about your shareholders, that's what you'd do; it would end here and now, and the drama would be gone. But you seem to insist on continuing the drama by refusing to admit guilt and refusing to apologize, and instead trying to push blame onto everyone but yourself.
This is not conduct I would expect from a CEO. This is conduct I would expect from a scammer. You're not a scammer; you should know better.
It is as if you came out a few days ago and decided you would destroy your four years of hard-earned reputation in just one week. You seem to be doing very well at it.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2007.05.08 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/05/2007 03:18:01
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Dark Shikari
No, I'm not "off topic".
The subject of Eefrit's supposed "lying" is directly related to your actual "lying."
The problem with that is that Eefrit actual lied (repeatedly) for his own personal gain (despite claiming it was for the benefit of others) and Tornsoul has not lied.
I do not know why you want to insist that Eefrit is sitting in an ivory tower. No one is debating that TS made a bad decision but its objectively clear that Eefrit lied.
I'm not talking about Eefrit.
Tornsoul stated in BMBE report number 6 that BMBE assets were 102B. They were not, and Tornsoul knew this full well. How is that not lying? And answer the damn question, don't play roundabout with me.
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